Who is Sarah?
Sarah is a former Managing Director at Accenture where she worked extensively on scalable talent management solutions. She is the best-selling author of two books: Let Your Personality Be Your Career Guide and The Road to Success which she co-authored with Jack Canfield of Chicken Soup for the Soul® fame. Sarah also created The Book of You®, which is a completely personalized book for each reader. The reader takes a world-renowned personality assessment, and with the results, Sarah is able to create a book uniquely for the reader with information specific to that reader and guidance on how (s)he can apply it to be happy, successful, and understood at work. It is like a “coach-in-a-book.”
Key Takeaways
1, Women in leadership roles really wants to get more females into leadership roles. She wants to get more females into the leadership pipeline. And the mistake that she's making is trying to do it all herself. And she's feeling guilty. And she's feeling also overwhelmed at the magnitude of the task, because all of the women in her organisation are looking up to her for help, for advice and for pulling them through. And she's actually struggling just to get her job done herself.
2. She doesn't have to do it herself - go engage your team in this process, and explain to them you've got limited bandwidth, but get them engaged in the process of actually coaching themselves. And you can start that by helping them to get really laser clear about what goals it is they want to achieve in their career.
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Transcript
Note, this was transcribed using a transcription software and may not reflect the exact words used in the podcast)
Stuart Webb 00:00
And we're live on it's not rocket science five questions over coffee. I will admit it's not coffee I've got in front of it alone. This is a cup of green tea, but that's because I'm trying to decaf my body a little bit and welcome everyone to It's not rocket science. Five questions of coffee. I'm here today with Dr. Sara Lee Brown. She's a former managing director, Accenture, and she's worked extensively on scalable talent management systems, a Best Selling Author of books, let your personality be your career guide, and the road success which you have co authored with Jack Canfield. So that must have been absolutely a wonderful experience working on that with he's the author of the Chicken Soup for the Soul. At a really great experience, I would imagine Sarah, so welcome to this afternoon's. It's not rocket science, five questions over coffee, I'm really looking forward to this discussion. Hope you get a lot out of it. So Sarah, do you want to kick us off by just explaining to us your ideal client and the company the challenges they face?
Dr Sarah E Brown 01:07
My ideal client is the most senior female executive and a company. And the reason she's my ideal client is because she is usually the only female in her position. She is what we call an only or a lonely because she has two female peers. And she's probably not the chief executive, which is a great shame as much of it, usually.
Stuart Webb 01:33
Which is a great.
Dr Sarah E Brown 01:35
Okay, so we've got we've got the ideal client, and we now understand that can you just give us a What's the common mistake people make trying to solve the problem of being a lonely in that position? Well, the the real problem that I'm addressing for her is the fact that she really wants to get more females into leadership roles. She wants to get more females into the leadership pipeline. And the mistake that she's making is trying to do it all herself. And she's feeling guilty. And she's feeling also overwhelmed at the magnitude of the task, because all of the women in her organisation are looking up to her for help, for advice and for pulling them through. And she's actually struggling just to get her job done herself.
Stuart Webb 02:25
Yeah, yeah. And I buy in 100%, of what you're saying, because I watched it with my wife who had a great female mentor in here, organisation to help her get to where she is. And she recognised that she was looking to someone for help, who quite frankly, probably wasn't, didn't have the time to help her in the way that she really needed. And it just didn't help either of them. And that's a really, that's great. So so tell us what is the valuable free action or free resource that you think you can point the audience to, in order to sort out solve that problem?
Dr Sarah E Brown 03:00
Well, what I want to do is to tell this woman that she doesn't have to do it herself. And so the valuable tip that I want to give her is go engage your team in this process, and explain to them you've got limited bandwidth, but get them engaged in the process of actually coaching themselves. And you can start that by helping them helping your team members to get really laser clear about what goals it is they want to achieve in their career.
Stuart Webb 03:34
Brilliant. Okay, how do we go about accessing that sort of that sort of advice?
Dr Sarah E Brown 03:40
Well, one of the keys to doing this is coming up with goals that are unique to the individual. So I'm going to offer as a free gift at Sarah e brown.com. I chapter of my book that you referenced before, let your personality be your career guide. And in that chapter, I have some exercises on how women can get very clear about who they are their unique interests, strengths and needs, and then how they can translate that into career goals that are equally unique for them. And you as a leader in the organisation can use this to actually begin to engage your team and thinking about what is important to them, and use that as the mechanism to actually begin to mentor them. But you don't have to then spend the time getting clear about what it is they want to achieve upfront.
Stuart Webb 04:32
Yeah, absolutely get get other people to do the thinking. It saves you an awful lot of effort and time, doesn't it? I've got a feeling that something that many male leaders could actually try and do occasionally as well. But that's another story, I suspect. So what's the contact book or programme that has been most influential, influential and impactful in your experience?
Dr Sarah E Brown 04:56
Well, you mentioned at the beginning of this and my bio that I have I've done some work with Jack Canfield. And so I'm going to suggest that the programme that has been a big influence in my life has been his success principles concept. And I've actually taking a lot of the tools from it from that process and embody that in my own process around how we can take responsibility for what it is we want to achieve, and then hand tools to other individuals to help us get there.
Stuart Webb 05:29
Oh, what a great set of principles to embed in your work. Absolutely brilliant. That must be that must make your life a lot easier to take principles like that and make it make it part of your work.
Dr Sarah E Brown 05:39
Well, it's based on 50 years of research on his part, and they're all time tested principles. So I know they work.
Stuart Webb 05:45
Yeah, absolutely. Right. Nice. Brilliant. So what's the one question that I should have asked you in the last few minutes? Which I haven't? And and before you answer, can you make sure that you also give us the answer to that rather than leaving us with a with a puzzle block thinking? That was a great question. I wish I knew the answer.
Dr Sarah E Brown 06:01
The question is, what is self coaching? And the reason I think that is that is a good question is because I believe it is the answer to my target ideal clients dilemma is how does she mentor and bring along the women in her organisation when she herself has limited bandwidth? And the answer to self question, self coaching is this. If we empower women with a process and the tools that they can use with another human being, to actually get clarity on the goals that are important to them, the right actions they can take, how to overcome obstacles and how to put the support mechanisms in place to actually begin pursuing that we can free up the women in the most senior parts of the organisation to be mentors to answer those specific questions around how do you address this particular challenge? And all of the other work the thinking about what's important to me? How do I get clear about that all the things that we historically call coaching can be done by the women as peers to themselves.
Stuart Webb 07:11
brilliant, absolutely brilliant. I absolutely love the answer. I wish I thought of the question. That's a really great answer. Thank you very much, Sarah. Really appreciate your time this afternoon. Can you just give us again the name of that website where we can go and get that resource because I think that's something that people would be really interested in.
Dr Sarah E Brown 07:28
Sarah e brown.com.
Stuart Webb 07:31
And Sarah s AR H brown br o n? No E's or no nothing?
Dr Sarah E Brown 07:39
Actually Sarah there's an E for my middle initial Sarah Brown and brown like the colour Yeah,
Stuart Webb 07:46
no problem. Just didn't want somebody to put Sarah e Brown and put the E on the end this off the age of the Sarah because they make a difference these letters. That's true. Brilliant. I love what you've done. I really thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. Sarah, thank you so much for spending some time with us. I really wish you all the success with that with that chapter. People if you haven't gone and got already to Sarah sort of website you should be on it already. You should be downloading that that copy. If you'd like to keep up with what we're doing here at the complete approach and you want a notification of when we do this and you can join in and watch live go to TCL dot FYI forward slash subscribe that's TCA forward slash TCA dot FYI forward slash scribe. And if you'd like to be a link, a book, a guest on the podcast, go to link dot the complete approach code at UK forward slash be a guest be a guest. Sara, thank you so much for spending some time with us this afternoon. Really appreciate you. I wish you all the success with that chapter. forward to catching up again too.
Dr Sarah E Brown 08:50
Thank you very much. It was a pleasure. No problem.
Five Questions Over Coffee with Dr Sarah E Brown (ep. 29)